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Condor seals

Postby fastdonkey » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:20 pm

Hi guys,
My rt now shares the garage with a recently acquired Condor A580 of '52 vintage. Although generally in good shape it needs a fair bit of tlc to make it fully roadworthy.
I appreciate that not being a bmw interest in it may well be diminished, but I find myself in a corner and any usefull advice/direction will be appreciated.

The problem is that I need to replace the hub seals. which have been damaged by a previous owner. They are standard metric 40/52/7 size.
I cannot find them anywhere however, the problem being the auxillary/extended metal housing which extends onto the vertical face of the sealing ring. I may be reduced to sending to Switzerland to aquire the necessary parts if poss. but for reasons of future convenience I would like to try and source as many consumables in u.k. as I can.
There are hopefully attachments of the problem and that the sketch makes sense. It's not a complicated seal but I have been all over the internet in attempting to source these as well as enquiring locally. Zilch.
I cannot find any markings or no's to go on.

Many thanks, Warner
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Re: Condor seals

Postby Galactic Greyhound » Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:23 pm

Hi Warner,

You might send your info above to 'Barnwell' in the link below to see if they can help:

http://www.barnwell.co.uk/products/cassette-seals/
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Re: Condor seals

Postby boxerman » Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:31 pm

I'd give you odds that if you can find a local bearing supplier and take them with you they'll be able to find you something to do the job
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Re: Condor seals

Postby fastdonkey » Fri Dec 09, 2016 7:39 pm

Hi guys,

Thanks for having a look at this. I gave Barnwell a try but they couldn't offer anything different to what I have already looked at.
I am going to cast my net a bit wider and continue to knock on doors as Phil suggested, taking in marine suppliers as well.

I'll keep you posted, maybe someone else can use the info.

Regards, warner

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Re: Condor seals

Postby keiththeoutfitter1 » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:07 pm

Looking at this page, the seal and the steel housing are shown aa separate items. (48,49)

http://www.benvanhelden.nl/Condorclub/c ... agina.html

Maybe you can buy an uncased seal and fit it into your housing.
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Re: Condor seals

Postby fastdonkey » Tue Dec 13, 2016 5:52 pm

Hi Keith,

I had thought initially to do a seal change as you suggest, but the casings are far from perfect and it's a path I would rather avoid longterm.
You are correct, the original seals were 2 piece. What I have removed are definitely one piece though, whether I end up trying to go back to two piece remains to be seen. I would doubt if they are still available, even from Dominik Giger, who is 'Mr. Condor' in Switzerland.
I have yet to pin down an e-mail address for him, when I do I'll find out what is available and at what cost.
In the meantime I'll keep digging here. The problem is made a little bit more complicated by the fact that the bike spent some early years
in the states, so the seals could have originated there. All very interesting but not helpful as there is no receipt to say one way or the other.
Oh, and although the seals are the same( wheels are interchangeable) the seal casing is slightly different on L and R.
So it's back to knocking on doors and attempting to trawl through other countries e-bay !!
Sadly it won't be on the road this Christmas. Not unless Santa is reading this post, you never know..........

Take care and have a good time, Warner

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Re: Condor seals

Postby keiththeoutfitter1 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:03 pm

Dominic Giger: no email, but phone nos. and postal address

https://tel.search.ch/vermes/chemin-du- ... inik-giger
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Re: Condor seals

Postby Nate » Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:19 pm

As an ex-owner of a Condor you have my sympathies... getting parts for them is a nightmare.

Giger indeed is the only man who holds spares for these bikes and rumour has it he bought the entire stock from the Swiss army when they moved over to the newer, Spanish Ducati engined Condors. Unfortunately Herr Giger speaks no English, and even when approached in his own language refuses to send parts abroad.

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Re: Condor seals

Postby fastdonkey » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:02 pm

Hi all,

Thanks to everyone who chipped in on this one. The eventual outcome was that I had to send to Switzerland to get the problem seal, fortunately still available there. Perhaps the seal is available somewhere in this country but enough is enough. As Nate indicated getting parts from Papa Giger in the past would seem to have been a bit of a mission. The situation now is that the son, Andreas, has got involved, apparently as intermediary, and can be contacted on the following site if anyone else requires it.

info@swiss-moto-bike.ch

Regards, Warner


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